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		<title>By: judy</title>
		<link>http://www.daringyoungmom.com/2007/01/22/i-support-choice-and-natural-consequences/comment-page-1/#comment-12234</link>
		<dc:creator>judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always have wondered, where are the women from BEFORE Roe v. Wade who had children they didn&#039;t want?  Why aren&#039;t they rushing the talk shows, dragging in middle aged children by the ear and saying &#039;This is the baby I didn&#039;t want!  Can I kill him now?&quot;

I think that abortion &#039;rights&#039; send the message that nothing in the womans&#039; life is going to improve.  Isn&#039;t that sad?  Like, life is hopeless if you don&#039;t get to have it exactly the way you want it.

That&#039;s just stupid.

Whatever happened to a woman&#039;s right to Hope?  To Hope that no matter what happens to her, there is more to this life than getting what we think we deserve.

LOVED this post.  And, what gracious commenters you have!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always have wondered, where are the women from BEFORE Roe v. Wade who had children they didn&#8217;t want?  Why aren&#8217;t they rushing the talk shows, dragging in middle aged children by the ear and saying &#8216;This is the baby I didn&#8217;t want!  Can I kill him now?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that abortion &#8216;rights&#8217; send the message that nothing in the womans&#8217; life is going to improve.  Isn&#8217;t that sad?  Like, life is hopeless if you don&#8217;t get to have it exactly the way you want it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just stupid.</p>
<p>Whatever happened to a woman&#8217;s right to Hope?  To Hope that no matter what happens to her, there is more to this life than getting what we think we deserve.</p>
<p>LOVED this post.  And, what gracious commenters you have!</p>
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		<title>By: dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was 28 weeks along with Kristen, the doctor told me I had tested positive for rubella - I had never had a sick moment in this pregnancy.  They told me it was not too late to terminate the pregnancy.  At that moment, Kristen kicked me as if to say, &quot;I&#039;m okay, Mommy.  Don&#039;t kill me!&quot;  It was a defining moment in our lives as we decided that there was no way on this earth we would &quot;terminate&quot; our little baby, no matter what.  A few minutes later they did another blood test and we spent an agonizing week-end waiting for the results - a lab error!  Amen to your well crafted post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was 28 weeks along with Kristen, the doctor told me I had tested positive for rubella &#8211; I had never had a sick moment in this pregnancy.  They told me it was not too late to terminate the pregnancy.  At that moment, Kristen kicked me as if to say, &#8220;I&#8217;m okay, Mommy.  Don&#8217;t kill me!&#8221;  It was a defining moment in our lives as we decided that there was no way on this earth we would &#8220;terminate&#8221; our little baby, no matter what.  A few minutes later they did another blood test and we spent an agonizing week-end waiting for the results &#8211; a lab error!  Amen to your well crafted post!</p>
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		<title>By: carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i could write volumes in response, but i will say that i agree on every point.  i see it this way - yes, we as women have a choice every day, and we excercise it.  to me, the choice is not &quot;do i abort this baby?&quot;  the choice is &quot;do i have sex today?&quot;  the act of having sex physically opens your body up to becoming pregnant, period.  we know this because no birth control method is touted as 100% effective.  so there is a chance, every time.  that is the choice.  when God wants to create life, He does.  and that is where our choice ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i could write volumes in response, but i will say that i agree on every point.  i see it this way &#8211; yes, we as women have a choice every day, and we excercise it.  to me, the choice is not &#8220;do i abort this baby?&#8221;  the choice is &#8220;do i have sex today?&#8221;  the act of having sex physically opens your body up to becoming pregnant, period.  we know this because no birth control method is touted as 100% effective.  so there is a chance, every time.  that is the choice.  when God wants to create life, He does.  and that is where our choice ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m coming in late on this topic since I just found your blog - I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed &quot;catching up&quot; on some of your most recent posts.
Here though, on this topic I&#039;m stuck and can&#039;t move on without commenting even though I know everyone else has moved on.

So many of the comments mentioned the effects of abortion on the woman - thoughts, opinions, knowledge gained from research on this issue but I didn&#039;t see any first hand information here.
So here I am 
I always said that I was against abortion except in incidents of rape or incest or maybe to save the mother&#039;s life. But that was before I got pregnant when I was 20  and unmarried.  All of that changed in my mind - the truth didn&#039;t change - but what I truly believed changed and I acted on what I truly believed.  
I truly believed that I had no other options, that I would be disowned by my family, my church and my friends.  So I chose my own life and my own convenience and my own reputation over the life of my own child - that&#039;s pretty disgusting but that is what abortion is.

The anger, the depression, the guilt and the shame almost destroyed me, nearly destroyed my marriage and ruined so many of my closest relationships. 

After an abortion the baby is dead - that life is over but the baby isn&#039;t the only one who dies.  Slowly,  that mother also dies little by little, day by day she dies spiritually, emotionally, and sometimes even physically.  Abortion is essentially murder but it is also slow suicide.

I am thankful that I have not only been forgiven but Jesus has also healed all of those wounds left by that choice that was mine to make.  

I believe in the sovereignty of God, I believe that He is the creator of life no matter what circumstances in which that life was created.  To heap the consequences of abortion on top of even those most difficult circumstances is not the merciful thing to do, it is the most cruel thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming in late on this topic since I just found your blog &#8211; I&#8217;ve thoroughly enjoyed &#8220;catching up&#8221; on some of your most recent posts.<br />
Here though, on this topic I&#8217;m stuck and can&#8217;t move on without commenting even though I know everyone else has moved on.</p>
<p>So many of the comments mentioned the effects of abortion on the woman &#8211; thoughts, opinions, knowledge gained from research on this issue but I didn&#8217;t see any first hand information here.<br />
So here I am<br />
I always said that I was against abortion except in incidents of rape or incest or maybe to save the mother&#8217;s life. But that was before I got pregnant when I was 20  and unmarried.  All of that changed in my mind &#8211; the truth didn&#8217;t change &#8211; but what I truly believed changed and I acted on what I truly believed.<br />
I truly believed that I had no other options, that I would be disowned by my family, my church and my friends.  So I chose my own life and my own convenience and my own reputation over the life of my own child &#8211; that&#8217;s pretty disgusting but that is what abortion is.</p>
<p>The anger, the depression, the guilt and the shame almost destroyed me, nearly destroyed my marriage and ruined so many of my closest relationships. </p>
<p>After an abortion the baby is dead &#8211; that life is over but the baby isn&#8217;t the only one who dies.  Slowly,  that mother also dies little by little, day by day she dies spiritually, emotionally, and sometimes even physically.  Abortion is essentially murder but it is also slow suicide.</p>
<p>I am thankful that I have not only been forgiven but Jesus has also healed all of those wounds left by that choice that was mine to make.  </p>
<p>I believe in the sovereignty of God, I believe that He is the creator of life no matter what circumstances in which that life was created.  To heap the consequences of abortion on top of even those most difficult circumstances is not the merciful thing to do, it is the most cruel thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Thoroughly Mormon Millie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thoroughly Mormon Millie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - this was an amazing post and I&#039;m so glad you took the oportunity on a so-called &quot;pro choice&quot; day to put something else out there that was worth reading.

&quot;I couldn’t look a rape victim in the face and tell her she couldn’t have an abortion&quot; is exactly how I feel.  What a tragedy, either way.  I absolutely would not tell my just-raped daughter, who found out she was pregnant, that she must carry the baby to term.  However, if I were raped and conceived as a result, I absolutely would not hesitate to give birth to that baby, and allow it to be raised in a home where it would be loved and valued.  I can&#039;t think of anything more healing than returning good for evil.

Alise (#30)&#039;s comment made me realize that we really don&#039;t put adoption on the pedestal it deserves.  I&#039;ve resolved to start being an advocate for adoption however and whenever I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; this was an amazing post and I&#8217;m so glad you took the oportunity on a so-called &#8220;pro choice&#8221; day to put something else out there that was worth reading.</p>
<p>&#8220;I couldn’t look a rape victim in the face and tell her she couldn’t have an abortion&#8221; is exactly how I feel.  What a tragedy, either way.  I absolutely would not tell my just-raped daughter, who found out she was pregnant, that she must carry the baby to term.  However, if I were raped and conceived as a result, I absolutely would not hesitate to give birth to that baby, and allow it to be raised in a home where it would be loved and valued.  I can&#8217;t think of anything more healing than returning good for evil.</p>
<p>Alise (#30)&#8217;s comment made me realize that we really don&#8217;t put adoption on the pedestal it deserves.  I&#8217;ve resolved to start being an advocate for adoption however and whenever I can.</p>
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		<title>By: Azucar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azucar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much enjoyed this post.  

I guess I&#039;m commenting because I disagree with some of the previous posters.  I couldn&#039;t look a rape victim in the face and tell her she couldn&#039;t have an abortion.  I would hope that she would choose adoption, or raising the child, but it&#039;s none of my business what victims of assault decide.  When her agency was violated, that removed my opinion from the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much enjoyed this post.  </p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m commenting because I disagree with some of the previous posters.  I couldn&#8217;t look a rape victim in the face and tell her she couldn&#8217;t have an abortion.  I would hope that she would choose adoption, or raising the child, but it&#8217;s none of my business what victims of assault decide.  When her agency was violated, that removed my opinion from the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I commend you DYM and others for being able to voice your thoughts, ideas and opinions so well. I agree with what DYM has said. Recently our state of SD had the opportunity to vote on making abortion illegal in our state. I struggled with this. I agree that abortion is wrong, but I wouldn&#039;t want the back alley illegal abortions to come back either. I totally agree with what you said about the choices a women has. One of the biggest arguments against this law in SD was there were no exceptions for rape, incest or the health of the mother. I did not neccesarily agree with this, but how many abortions are actually performed for those reasons. Not many. This means that abortion, in most cases, is being used as a form of birth control. Ultimately I did vote in favor of this law, but it did not pass. I believe we must first begin by educating our children and young people to make choices responsibly and accept the consequences for our choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I commend you DYM and others for being able to voice your thoughts, ideas and opinions so well. I agree with what DYM has said. Recently our state of SD had the opportunity to vote on making abortion illegal in our state. I struggled with this. I agree that abortion is wrong, but I wouldn&#8217;t want the back alley illegal abortions to come back either. I totally agree with what you said about the choices a women has. One of the biggest arguments against this law in SD was there were no exceptions for rape, incest or the health of the mother. I did not neccesarily agree with this, but how many abortions are actually performed for those reasons. Not many. This means that abortion, in most cases, is being used as a form of birth control. Ultimately I did vote in favor of this law, but it did not pass. I believe we must first begin by educating our children and young people to make choices responsibly and accept the consequences for our choices.</p>
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		<title>By: cara</title>
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		<dc:creator>cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post. Thanks for taking a stand. I do have to agree with others, though, that rape/incest does not justify an abortion. Do we grant women the right to kill the perpetrator? Why do we allow women to kill the innocent child? Why should the child pay with his life for the crime of his father? We must continually land on the most important question: What is it that is in her womb? If it is life indeed, then there should be no exceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post. Thanks for taking a stand. I do have to agree with others, though, that rape/incest does not justify an abortion. Do we grant women the right to kill the perpetrator? Why do we allow women to kill the innocent child? Why should the child pay with his life for the crime of his father? We must continually land on the most important question: What is it that is in her womb? If it is life indeed, then there should be no exceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good discussion.  Kathyrn, a well written post that I totally agree with.  And though by the time I post this, most people will have moved on to another post, I just want to say this, because it has not been mentioned. 

Okay, so I have &quot;choices&quot; and it&#039;s &quot;my&quot; body.  Fine. But I think what women don&#039;t realize or think about is that  there is a guilt felt by women who abort their babies.  Because they are (often) selfishly denying life to another person.  They are killing an unborn child.  I think that committing a &quot;crime&quot; like that will haunt you for the rest of your life.  And yet we so rarely talk about this aspect or even present it to women who are considering abortion.

I mean, sure you can have the abortion and move on.  But I don&#039;t know that you can ever really &quot;move on&quot; from something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good discussion.  Kathyrn, a well written post that I totally agree with.  And though by the time I post this, most people will have moved on to another post, I just want to say this, because it has not been mentioned. </p>
<p>Okay, so I have &#8220;choices&#8221; and it&#8217;s &#8220;my&#8221; body.  Fine. But I think what women don&#8217;t realize or think about is that  there is a guilt felt by women who abort their babies.  Because they are (often) selfishly denying life to another person.  They are killing an unborn child.  I think that committing a &#8220;crime&#8221; like that will haunt you for the rest of your life.  And yet we so rarely talk about this aspect or even present it to women who are considering abortion.</p>
<p>I mean, sure you can have the abortion and move on.  But I don&#8217;t know that you can ever really &#8220;move on&#8221; from something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: grafted branch</title>
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		<dc:creator>grafted branch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abortion in the case of rape or incest?  That doesn&#039;t make sense.  The baby is still a baby.  

It would be a tragic, difficult situation for the mother, for sure -- but this life includes tragedy and difficulty sometimes.  And then again, sometimes the tragedy and difficulty that the Lord calls one to, is for the child (deformation/illness).

The situation I&#039;ve struggled over is abortion of a non-viable fetus for the life of the mother (ectopic pregnancy).  It may seem like a no-brainer, but when you face it, it&#039;s not.  It&#039;s God&#039;s work to create a life -- does He ever give His permission for me to end it?  Can&#039;t He (and hasn&#039;t He) performed miracles according to His will?

 I continue to seek a true answer from His Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abortion in the case of rape or incest?  That doesn&#8217;t make sense.  The baby is still a baby.  </p>
<p>It would be a tragic, difficult situation for the mother, for sure &#8212; but this life includes tragedy and difficulty sometimes.  And then again, sometimes the tragedy and difficulty that the Lord calls one to, is for the child (deformation/illness).</p>
<p>The situation I&#8217;ve struggled over is abortion of a non-viable fetus for the life of the mother (ectopic pregnancy).  It may seem like a no-brainer, but when you face it, it&#8217;s not.  It&#8217;s God&#8217;s work to create a life &#8212; does He ever give His permission for me to end it?  Can&#8217;t He (and hasn&#8217;t He) performed miracles according to His will?</p>
<p> I continue to seek a true answer from His Word.</p>
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